interview with Mana Lomi® founder
Dr. Maka'ala Yates, D.C.


Recently Maka'ala Yates, my mentor and guide, sent me his written responses to questions put to him by an eager, mature, massage therapy student from Texas. Having facilitated the connection between these two both special men, I was glad to benefit from their connection.

In his writing shared here, Maka'ala gives clarity and substance to my own thoughts, attitudes and experiences. Reading Maka'ala's words highlights for me once again why I treasure teaching with direct and active connection to the Mana Lomi® lineage. I love teaching as a member of the Mana Lomi® 'ohana (family.) I am honored indeed!!!!

Please enjoy reading Maka'ala's answers below. 

Was massage therapy your first career choice? If so why? If not, what brought you to massage therapy?
Maka'ala:  Mana Lomi, a specialized problem solving form of lomilomi (for now I'll interpret this as Hawaiian massage), was a part of life growing up in Kona, Hawaii. It was common in those days to have a skilled Lomi practitioner in almost every family, for sure in every village. It never occurred to me that this could be a career for me some day. In fact, I remember at the age of six whispering to my two younger sisters while working on one of my elders (kupuna) that "when I grow up I am never going to do this work!"

Little did I know that other Divine plans were laid out for me. Later in life I started helping more and more people in their every day common ailments. Then at the age of about 30, I began my formal training in Hawaiian medicine, which included lomilomi. At the age of about 40 I started teaching this work.


Have you ever felt burnt out? If so, how did you manage that?
Maka'ala: "Burnt out" is not a familiar feeling for me primarily because the ease and efficacy of Mana Lomi. When you are able to use your body weight and vector (directional biomechanics) efficiently with your intended outcome then you'll never get tired.

lomi shoulder Marcia

Also, when you are able to help people out of their physical malady, what a joy it is for both. When I am in a problem solving mode, my mind is inquiring further than the hands-on skills learnt. My creativity and curiosity is always stimulated without any attachment to the outcome. There is no end to learning for an inquisitive mind, therefore, no room to get bored! I work on each person as if I am the one that is on the table.

photo: Maka'ala works on Marcia, York, another Mana Lomi teacher



What do you like most and least about being a Massage Therapist?
Maka'ala: I will assume that the term "Massage Therapist" refers to a legal name given to a person that provides some form of hands-on treatment for another person and that there is a financial gain from that exchange. In this case what I like least is the legal system that is in place to approve and issue a license to practice. Without getting political on you, this "legal" system does not guarantee efficacy of treatment or being free from injury for the public.

The reason why I like the work that I do is because I was taught responsibility (kuleana) with the skills learnt not only to the people that I work on and myself as a practitioner, but to my teachers before me and their teachers before them. Every action, word, or thought is done as if all of my ancestors (my kuleana goes beyond teachers and includes elders and family members) are right next to me, watching and listening. As long as I am pono (practicing with integrity, harmony, sensitivity, trust, etc,) I am supported by my na Kupuna (ancestors, elders).


What advice would you give someone starting out in massage therapy?
Maka'ala: Think of wanting to genuinely help others first and financial gains (reasons) last. Remember, learning really begins out in the field.

Finally, be more attentive to your hands on skills than to academics. No one is going to ask you what your grades were in massage school. If you are skilled with your hands, they will know it and are more willing to return to you when they need your help in the future.

Think of having a sustainable practice where everyone receives equally energetically.


Copyrighted 2014 Barbara Helynn Heard

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